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Where are the verses in the Bible that discuss all followers of the Messiah being part of Israel?

  • TruthSeeker
    6 posts

    Below is one verse that Dr. Pidgeon pointed out in his blog titled "The rule for the alien."

    Yechezq’el (Ezekiel) 47:22-23
    And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Yashar’el; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Yashar’el. 23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourns, there shall ye give him his inheritance, says ADONAI YAHUAH.

    1. Can someone please point me to other Bible verses in both the New & Old Testament that deal with this issue?

    2. "...as born in the country among the children of Yashar’el" This verse seems to apply that only those born in the country are the children of Yashar’el. Does this mean that the original children of Yashar’el are being instructed to accept all outsiders?

    3. "...among the tribes of Yashar’el." What tribe would a person without Jewish genealogy be from?

    I'm really trying wrap my mind around why God would have initially focused on the Jewish tribes, and then opened up to include everyone that followed his son the Messiah. The use of (country) & (children of Yashar’el) in the verse above seem to imply a special status for the early children of Yashar’el.

    Please advise

  • TruthSeeker
    6 posts

    I apologize for the double posting of this topic; for some reason it did not post the first time. Then they both posted at once.

  • CycloManiac
    86 posts

    Below are a few verses, but this is not an exhaustive record.

    1 Peter 2:9-10
    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of Yahuah: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

    Ephesians 2:11-22
    Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past the other nations in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Mashiach, being aliens from the Devariym of Yashar’el, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without Yahuah in the world: 13 But now in Mashiach Yahusha ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Mashiach. 14 For he is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the en-mity, the commands of the statutes con-tained in dogma; to make in himself of two one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto Yahuah in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Ruach unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the qodeshiym, and of the household of Ya-huah; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Yahusha Ha’Mashiach himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together grows unto a holy Temple in Yahuah: 22 In whom ye also are built together for a habitation of Yah through the Ruach.

    Deuteronomy 14:2
    For you are a holy people unto Yahuah Elohayka, and Yahuah has chosen you to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

    Deuteronomy 26:16-19
    This day Yahuah Elohayka has commanded you to do ?? eth-these commandments and ?? eth-these judgments: you shall therefore guard and do them with all your heart, and with all your soul. 17 You have avouched ?? eth-Yahuah this day to be your Elohiym, and to walk in his ways, and to guard his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice: 18 And Yahuah has avouched you this day to be his peculiar people, as he has promised you, and that you should guard all his commandments; 19 And to make you high above all nations which he has made, in praise, and in name, and in honour; and that you may be a holy people unto Yahuah Elohayka, as he has spoken.

  • TruthSeeker
    6 posts

    Thank you very much for your response "CycloManiac." The verses from the New Testament are very clear, however the verses from the Old Testament are obviously more vague. Are there any other verses in the Old Testament that state more clearly that you don't have to have direct ancestry back to the twelve Jewish tribes in order to be considered part of this idea of Israel? It just seems that direct descendants of the Holy Land are held at some sort of higher status. For example, on a recent episode of "On The Mark," Dr. Pidgeon states something along the lines of the First Passover only being for people living in the Holy Land, and that others should be acknowledging Second Passover. Please advise, as I would like to have a strong idea if what the "House of Israel" truly means.

    Another blog or show I would truly love to see done by Dr. Pidgeon is one that clearly lists and explains exactly which Feasts/Sabbaths we should all be acknowledging, when they are and how to acknowledge them in one concise location. If this has already been done, please direct me to that.

    I would also like to take the time to state how much I appreciate not only what Dr. Pigeon is doing, but what everyone else at NYSTV and beyond is doing to not only obtain and organize this information, but to get it out there for people. Your voices are being heard!

  • CycloManiac
    86 posts

    My recommendation is to do a word study on the words "Yahudah/Judah" and "Yashar'el/Israel" and make a list of all the scriptures that deal with that subject.

  • TruthSeeker
    6 posts

    That's a great idea. Thank you.