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Pa'al a student of Gamliy'el

  • SHELYZ71
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    Upon learning who Hiliel was through Dr. Stephen's teaching, and then finding out that Gamliy'el was the grandson of the "legendary elder and rabbi Hililel, it at first had me a gasp. Then I had to pray and ask for the Ruach HaQodesh guidance in understanding what it was He wanted me to know concerning Pa'al and his teachings. This was pretty shaking to me. I wanted to share my thoughts on the conclusion I came to regarding how to move forward after learning this information. For what Its worth, which as of now, is just the font on this forum! It is possible that Pa'al, having been given eyes to see, must have learned the identity of Hiliel and what destruction he had caused by corrupting the Torah with the Talmud. Pa'al was probably so besides himself, and so concerned about people falling for the deceptions of the snake, that he just took to the opposite extreme with his teachings regarding the Torah. In 2 Peter 3:16 , Peter exppains how people distort his teachings because they are hard to understand.
    So I have come to the conclusion, as Dr. Stephen has suggested and I have stated many times, after reading the book of Acts there should not be any misunderstanding as to who Paul where he stood in terms of the Torah.
    Shelly Z

  • gwaya
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    MOST PEOPLE are already following Destruction/Abaddon/Apollylon/The Devil and they do not even know it

    G623 Apollyon active participle of G622 ap?llymi
    Strong's G684 – apoleia from apollymi G622
    The name Apollyon comes from apollymi which means “I destroy.” So the Greek term has the same meaning as the Hebrew Abaddon
    Abaddon Meaning: Destructive One, Place Of Destruction
    Etymology From the verb ??? abad, to perish or to be destroyed

    The verb ??? 'abad means to die, or rather to disintegrate: the falling apart of an organic or social (or even mental) body into independent elements. As such, our verb may even describe how domesticated animals (donkeys, sheep) escape the confines of their human settlement and take off into the unconnected wild (at their great peril).

    The derived noun ??? ' obed means destruction; the noun ???? ' abeda denotes a lost item.
    http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Abaddon.html…

    Mat_7:13 Go in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to DESTRUCTION (G684) ( i.e. Apollyon or Abaddon) , and many are the ones entering in through it.?

    Revelation 9:11 They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is DESTRUCTION (Abaddon), and in Greek he is called Apollyon (G623).

    JOHN TELLS YOU WHO ABADDON IS :
    Judas was Simon Peter’s Son AND Yahusha said the ONLY ONE HE LOST WAS DESTRUCTION'S SON ....
    John 17:12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN LOST EXCEPT THE SON OF DESTRUCTION, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

    Iscariot is simply a noun meaning "traitor" not a last name

    John 6:71 He spoke of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray him.
    John 13:2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him,
    John 13:26 Yahusha answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

    DURING THE LAST SUPPER DESTRUCTION OR THE DEVIL WAS THERE
    John 13:2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him,
    John 13:26 Yahusha answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

    The Messiah said he choose the Devil as one of his apostles
    John 6:70 ????? answered them, “Have I not chosen you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil ?”

    PETER COULD NOT DENY YAHUSHA WITH OATHS AND CURSES WITHOUT DENYING THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE IT WAS IN YAHUSHA IN BODILY FORM

    Luke 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form, like a dove; and a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.”

    Matthew 26:69-75
    Disciples’ Literal New Testament (DLNT)

    Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard. And one servant-girl came to him, saying, “You also were with Yahusha the Galilean”. BUT THE ONE DENIED IT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, SAYING, “I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING”, “I do not know what you are saying”. And he having gone out to the gate, another saw him. And she says to the ones there, “This one was with Yahusha the Nazarene”. AND AGAIN HE DENIED IT WITH AN OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN”. And having come to him after a little while, the ones standing there said to Peter, “Truly you also are one of them, for even your speaking makes you evident”. Then HE BEGAN TO CURSE, AND TO SWEAR-WITH-AN-OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN.” And immediately a rooster crowed. And Peter remembered the word Yahusha had spoken— that “Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three-times”. AND HAVING GONE OUTSIDE, HE WEPT BITTERLY.

    Matthew 10:33 "Whoever DISOWNS ME before others, I WILL ALSO DENY BEFORE MY FATHER IN HEAVEN.”

    DISOWN OR DENY G533
    From G575 and G720; to deny utterly, that is, disown, abstain: - deny.

    Yahusha intentionally choose satan then handed him the keys
    Mar 3:23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house. 28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
    Mat 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
    Hos 10:10 When I desire, I shall bind them; and the peoples shall be gathered against them, when they bind themselves to their two perversities.

    The only person the son of man called satan was peter

    Matthew 16: 22-23
    And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it from you, Master! This shall never happen to you.” 23 But he turned and said to Peter, “GET BEHIND ME, SATAN G4567 ! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of Elohim, but ON THE THINGS OF MAN.”

    Mar_8:33 But turning and seeing his disciples, he rebuked Peter and said, “GET BEHIND ME, SATAN G4567 ! For you are not setting your mind on the things of ELOHIM, but on the things of man.”

    Mat_4:10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship YHVH your ELOHIM and him only shall you serve.’”